Name: lee
City: fargo
Remote Name: 64.21.232.136
Date: Saturday November 15, 2003
Time: 12:03:34 AM
Hunting_Talk
Hey Jeff, last year a bunch of pheasants were found in a dumpster next to a hotel out by Dickinson. These birds were not cleaned they were whole birds. This hotel was full of out of state hunters, this is a pretty good assumption these birds came from them. Three birds a day hardly seems worth comeing to our great state. All i am saying is if out of state hunters come here atleast they can do is respect the land and the laws. I lived in San Diego and you have to admit there are alot of insane wacked out people there.
lee
Name: Another resident
City: god's country revisited
Remote Name: 210.19.82.2
Date: Thursday November 13, 2003
Time: 08:29:49 PM
Hunting_Talk
Resident,
Residents pay income tax all year long, but North Dakota receives $2+ for every $1 it sends to Washington and mostly through farm subsidies.
It seems the rest of the country DOES have a vested stake in our land...they're paying for it.
Name: resident
City: god's country
Remote Name: 209.180.61.134
Date: Thursday November 13, 2003
Time: 08:26:44 PM
Hunting_Talk
Jeff,
Residents pay state income tax, as well as sales tax all year long. The couple hundred dollars you bring doesn't even compare. You people come hunting to this great state of ours, then bitch. If you don't like the rules, stay home. I guess world class hunting isn't enough, still gotta complain about something.
Name: jeff
City: ventura, ca
Remote Name: 63.173.0.145
Date: Thursday November 13, 2003
Time: 05:55:56 PM
Hunting_Talk
lee, besides the large sum of money we pay for licences and tags, there are the hotel rooms, the car rentals, the plane flights, the large parties to your local resturants, gas, etc. you multiply that times the amount of out of state hunters and that doesnt add uo to a large amount? california has a number of great colleges to help you with math. i was just giving you an out of state point of view. i do not advocate pay for hunt but with the law changes your state is forcing us to pay now that the public places are off limits to us for the begining of the season. i dont care about paying, all i am saying is dont forget what we bring to the local communities. some of you cant see past your hatred of californians to see whats in black and white.
Name: BigD
City: Grand Forks
Remote Name: 69.9.239.253
Date: Saturday November 08, 2003
Time: 11:57:44 PM
Hunting_Talk
Just wanted to give a big "GOOD JOB" to the North Dakota Fish and Game. They appear to be doing a pretty good job in aggressively seeking out landowners for the PLOTS program. We went deer hunting today and went on only Plots and other public access land. In the first 15 minutes we had already bagged a nice buck and had seen about 15 deer within 200 yards. Earlier this year we had no problem in limiting out on ducks and geese, also on public access land near Devils lake. Again, thank you to all the landowners involved in Plots and also the North Dakota Fish and Game for an excellent hunting season.
Name: lee
City: Fargo
Remote Name: 64.21.232.182
Date: Wednesday November 05, 2003
Time: 11:47:05 PM
Hunting_Talk
Hey Jeff, out of state hunters don't spend as much money in ND as you think. They come with everything they need, ok i guess maybe gas and lodgeing but what else. What they do is make it exspensive for the people who live here.
Name: chris heyen
City: Abercrombie
: Heyen@rrt.net
Remote Name: 165.234.188.212
Date: Tuesday November 04, 2003
Time: 10:56:17 AM
Hunting_Talk
I went hunting for the first time this year for pheasants. I an 13 . I almost got my limit .I think its fun
Name: outdrznd
City: SE ND
: outdrznd@hotmail.com
Remote Name: 152.163.252.66
Date: Friday October 31, 2003
Time: 06:02:49 PM
Hunting_Talk
New Hunter...... I am a ND resident who is willing to state that you are 100 percent accurate in your writing. I feel as you do with one exception: Farmers do get subsidies from taxpayers not just for crp land but for EVERY crop they plant. These are known as deficiency payments. I am not able to acquire deficiency payments if I make less this year compared to past year(s). If we could put ourselves in their shoes and be able to bitch about the poor wages and employee cut backs as they complain about the poor prices for their product, then maybe we could get the politicians to pass legislation to provide cash payments to us as well made possible by selling crops to foreign lands as "food for charity". I hope you understand my point here, I don't mean to belittle farmers or anyone else but do feel if our taxes go to help them financially why can't we use their crops stored to acquire deficiency payments as a means for generating assistance for the common working folk in tough times??
Name: New Hunter
City: St. Cloud, MN
: mcallister@sherbtel.net
Remote Name: 208.38.89.110
Date: Sunday October 26, 2003
Time: 11:37:24 AM
Hunting_Talk
Waterfowl hunting is a new interest for me and this year has been my first season. I have been fortunate to have been "mentored" by some very good friends and have learned a lot about the hunter's code, etc.
We have hunted the last few weekends around Gwinner, ND without a great amount of success. While the water is low, there is still sufficient amounts, however the birds just don't seem to be there. We have permission to hunt some private land in the vicinity, but there hasn't been much activity there. Considerable time has been spent driving and trying to gain permission on other private lands in the area with little to no success.
Everywhere we ask, we seem to be getting the same responses, which are, simply put, that the lands have been leased for the season to both resident and non-resident hunters alike. This has prompted me to do some research on the resident-vs- non-resident hunting restrictions. There are lots of opinions out there on the topic. Unless I'm viewing this wrong, my understanding is that the ND govt. placed restriction to better manage the wildlife resource. Those restrictions increased the competition between resident and non-residents for hunting access to both private and public lands.
That competition has led to some pretty hard feelings between some of the two factions, and on the other hand- it has created a sense of solidarity between other groups within those same two factions. The one outcome of the whole non-resident restriction issue, right or wrong, is that the farmers are profiting from this restriction and competition for hunting access to their lands. They are creating a "pay-to-hunt" economy. Now- it seems that the farmer's are not discriminatory of who they lease to.
They will lease to both residents and non-residents alike (anyone who can pay is welcome), and they are generally against the government sanctioned restrictions as it results in restrictions on the additional money they make on the side leasing out their land to squabbling hunters. It seems the only winners in this whole situations are farmers. Forget about all the side issues which are essentially who spends money in which state and for what thing, which should gain this resident access to certain things or restrict others from the same.
Those are just arguments made to try to make sense out of what we seem to be facing. I don't know the answer to the problem as it seems to have bring up two questions. One is, should the farmers be able to post up all the land and create a pay-to-hunt economy when that same land is receiving subsidies from taxpayers to start with? And the second is, should farmers have to give up an opportunity to make some secondary income from their land when times have been difficult enough?
After all- subsidies or not, it is their land, and as citizens of this great country, they have the right to entrepreneurship the same as anyone else. The government also gives tax breaks/subsidies to small business owners around the country, but that doesn't allow me to walk into their business and get my service for free, or to set the fee I do have to pay. You see the point I'm going for. I don't know the answer.
All I do see, is that hunting in ND will still successfully happen every season for some residents and non-residents alike. Those successful hunters will share one similarity- they will have paid for the privilege to hunt the land and to shoot their limit. The rest of us will crowd in on public lands, and while we will still enjoy seeing the sun rising and all the other experiences that go with waterfowl hunting, we will enjoy less hunting success and will be sharing fewer birds. That's my brief understanding on that topic.
On a different note, has anyone been hunting the Tewaukon area around Gwinner or Foreman, ND, and if so- has it been as unsuccessful for you as it has been for us? What is your opinion on that area for the rest of the season?
Name: Lee
City: Fargo
Remote Name: 64.21.232.36
Date: Wednesday October 22, 2003
Time: 08:36:59 PM
Hunting_Talk
hey Jeff, we North Dakotan's are getting tired of pay to hunt ideas. I think we all pay enough, so it would be nice if people such as your self would stop promoteing pay to hunt. What happens to the people who can't afford to pay to hunt whatdo we say to the kids. I think everyone should beable to enjoy hunting without the extra cost. I've seen farmers try to charge $100 to $150 per person to hunt pheasants on land that we the tax payers are already paying for.
Name: LEE
City: Fargo
Remote Name: 64.21.232.43
Date: Monday October 20, 2003
Time: 10:16:50 PM
Hunting_Talk
I just wanted to say that i get tired of all the farmers posting up everything. We as tax payers pay for all their subsidies and look at crp, they shouldn't beable to keep us from hunting. As a hunter i respect the land and the land owners but i'm just a little fed up with the farmers. I'm wondering if the IRS should take a look at what some farmers are chargeing to hunt pheasants. I think that out of staters are a big part of this problem too. Only the rich will beable to hunt this is my opinion
Name: JOE
City: HORTONVILLE, WI
Remote Name: 152.163.252.66
Date: Monday October 13, 2003
Time: 01:36:25 PM
Hunting_Talk
I am coming into Fesenden on Fri Oct 17'th, and am looking for any tips on getting into the geese in the area, this is my fourth year out and I have not been able to get into them very good, "THANK YOU" in advance for any help...
Name: Tyler
City: Minot
Remote Name: 216.221.118.184
Date: Sunday October 12, 2003
Time: 03:01:39 PM
Hunting_Talk
I was hunting near the Upper Souris Indian Refuge and saw a few big whitetails and a couple big Mule deer bucks so if thats where your hunting stay there.
Name: Tyler
City: Minot
Remote Name: 216.221.118.184
Date: Sunday October 12, 2003
Time: 02:59:13 PM
Hunting_Talk
If anybody is wondering where to hunt near the Upper Souris Indian Refuge there are a few HUGE mule deer bucks up there. We stalked one for 5 days and we lost him in the River Botton. so if your lookin for big bucks thats where you wanna be.
Name: mike
City: wisconsin
Remote Name: 206.176.202.125
Date: Thursday October 09, 2003
Time: 06:46:14 PM
Hunting_Talk
i hunted in north dakota 2 years ago and was thinking about going back this year bow hunting whitetail and was wondering if anyone knew a rancher that had cabins and offered hunts for under 1000.00 for 5 to 7 days in good whitetail areas
Name: mike
City: wisconsin
Remote Name: 206.176.202.125
Date: Thursday October 09, 2003
Time: 06:38:35 PM
Hunting_Talk
i hunted in north dakota 2 years ago and was thinking about going back this year bow hunting whitetail and was wondering if anyone knew a rancher that had cabins and offered hunts for under 1000.00 for 5 to 7 days in good whitetail areas
Name: Jaimie
City: Bethel, AK
: jaimiekass@hotmail.com
Remote Name: 209.161.170.82
Date: Tuesday October 07, 2003
Time: 02:06:08 AM
Hunting_Talk
Just found this site. I am so excited about hunting in ND this fall I was looking for some info. I did notice alot of discussion between resident and non-residents. I have been both as I grew up in ND. First, I think the prices for NR are quit reasonalbe. Compare with other state, like Alaska. Here you must have a guide for many spieces. And the tags are much higher. Second, access to land isn't nearly as bad as some people say, try Washington state or Colorado. I have pleanty of family owned land to hunt on but two year ago (the last time I was back) I had great success on WMP's. I was also treated very well by many land owners. I found that by taking a little time talking to the owners, instead of asking and running to the field, goes a long way to building a long lasting relationship. Currently many NR hunters hunt my family's land. Some have been comming for several years. My relatives actualy look forward to meeting these people. One last note; I also bring some salmon and wild game from where I live to share and invite them to give me a call if they are ever in Alaska, I'll be glad to help them weather fishing, hunting, or just on vacation.
Good hunting to everyone! Jaimie
Name: Mallard
City: North Dakota
Remote Name: 144.232.188.70
Date: Thursday October 02, 2003
Time: 05:30:42 PM
Hunting_Talk
Jeff from California,
You made some off the wall statement referring to how North Dakotan's don't realize the economic impact that out of state hunters have and that there wouldn't be an economy in ND if it weren't for out of state hunters. First of all, we do realize the economic impact, and although the impact is great and much needed in most rural communities the fact remains that the future of waterfowl hunting is in jeopardy if the influx of out of state hunters continues. Second, North Dakotans never have and never will rely on California for anything. In reality, California as well as many other states rely on ND and midwestern states for the food they eat each day.
I was born and raised in the wheatfields of ND chasing mallards for 25 years. I have recently moved to Minnesota and I am now a non-resident (techincally) although ND will always be my home and I plan to return in a few years. in the meantime I return 7 or 8 times a year to help my father in law with planting and harvest, and twice a year to duck hunt. I abide by all the new regulations for non-residents and feel that residents of ND should have the last word when protecting our greatest resource.
Name: Resident
City: ND
Remote Name: 216.221.107.100
Date: Sunday September 14, 2003
Time: 12:13:21 PM
Hunting_Talk
Tom
Let me thank you on behalf of our DEPRESSED STATE for you gracing us with your presence. I do not know how we could survive without you.
Name: Reid garrison
City: Oakes
: rgarrison@valspar.com
Remote Name: 207.250.144.4
Date: Friday September 12, 2003
Time: 03:42:34 PM
Hunting_Talk
Can anyone tell me if there are any pay to shoot areas near Oakes? My wife and I purchased a small farmstead outside of Oakes and were taking care of my father inlaw who is living there. We plan to retire there in a few years but we are non - residents at this point. Within 8 miles of our place there are a few plots but I really don't want to sleep in my truck to enjoy a day with my wife and dogs ( this is our first year ). I love ND and I'm working with the NRCS to plant natural ND seed throughout the property. We have pheasants around our property but it doesn't take long for a dog to work a small farm.
Thank you
Name: jeff
City: ventura,ca
Remote Name: 216.52.108.254
Date: Wednesday September 10, 2003
Time: 01:57:45 PM
Hunting_Talk
marty, i can see your point about out of state hunters but what you fail to realize is what we do for the economy in your depressed state. we hunt near lemon and if it wasnt for hunting season and out of state hunters, there wouldnt be any economy there. the states answer apparently is to raise hunting fees now for out of state hunters and set hunting time deadlines. this is the wrong approach in my opinion. people will stop coming, you will have more hunting available to you, and more businesses will be closed, forcing sales and foreclosures. it seems like most places i go to in north, south dakota are tight knit communities. if you cant find hunting places from your neighbor or coworkers etc., you arent doing your homework. this is an out of state look at your out of state hunter complaints. jeff, ventura, ca.
Name: Brian Templeton
City: Kansas City
: btemp@kc.rr.com
Remote Name: 65.30.105.178
Date: Monday August 18, 2003
Time: 11:04:57 PM
Hunting_Talk
I am interested in making a trip to North Dakota this fall to waterfowl hunt. never been there and would apreciate any info on areas to hunt and stay. Looking for a cheap trip with lots of ducks. Please Email
Name: Cory
City: Minot
Remote Name: 24.230.32.111
Date: Monday August 18, 2003
Time: 02:21:13 AM
Hunting_Talk
Anyone know any good gopher areas close to Minot? I have a friend that wants me to take him gopher shooting tuesday, but I havnt seen many this year in my normal spots. Thanks
Name: Rick Smith
City: Paonia Coloardo
: robinhood1063@AOL.COM
Remote Name: 152.163.253.65
Date: Wednesday August 13, 2003
Time: 02:46:47 AM
Hunting_Talk
ENY BODY WONT TO TRADE A FISHING TRIP FOR A ELK HUNTING TRIP WITH THE BEST ELK HUNTER IN THE WEST WELL I THINK SO my son is going to school up thare and I wont to go fishing. I HAVE GUIDED 53 KILL'S IN THREE YEARS SOME 320 OR BETTER BOW IS MY THING BUT GUN IS OK LET ME KNOW RICK
Name: Rick Smith
City: Paonia Coloardo
: robinhood1063@AOL.COM
Remote Name: 152.163.253.65
Date: Wednesday August 13, 2003
Time: 02:46:45 AM
Hunting_Talk
ENY BODY WONT TO TRADE A FISHING TRIP FOR A ELK HUNTING TRIP WITH THE BEST ELK HUNTER IN THE WEST WELL I THINK SO my son is going to school up thare and I wont to go fishing. I HAVE GUIDED 53 KILL'S IN THREE YEARS SOME 320 OR BETTER BOW IS MY THING BUT GUN IS OK LET ME KNOW RICK
Name: Baby Angel
City: Franklin,KY
: thuggishdragonchick@yahoo.com
Remote Name: 205.188.208.71
Date: Tuesday August 05, 2003
Time: 03:02:15 PM
Hunting_Talk
My grandfather wants to go hunting in north and south dakota, he wants the average weather their during the pheasant hunting season. If anyone could tell me it would be helpful I can find what I need on line.I would also like to have the informatioin for the public lands. Well take care to everyone who reads this. Thanks for your time and take care.
Baby Angel
Name: Reid garrison
City: Oakes
: rgarrison@valspar.com
Remote Name: 207.250.144.4
Date: Tuesday July 29, 2003
Time: 02:19:20 PM
Hunting_Talk
My wife and I recently purchased a place in Oakes, we both Love to hunt upland birds and have four great dogs. Does anyone know if their's private land around the area that is available to hunt for a fee? I know that there is allot of open land but would like to see other options. Thank you
Name: Blondie
City: Rhame ND
: blondie_getz04@hotmail.com
Remote Name: 12.23.184.218
Date: Tuesday July 08, 2003
Time: 03:55:25 PM
Hunting_Talk
The prarie dogs are pretty thick in this area, right along the little missouri river. Most people around here are glad to have you come and shoot as many as you would like, just let them know you are going onto their land.
Name: Jim
City: Morris Il
: jkj3m4now@aol.com
Remote Name: 152.163.253.65
Date: Thursday July 03, 2003
Time: 02:13:14 PM
Hunting_Talk
Reading a lot of mixed bag reports on non-resident hunting in North Dakota. We are hoping to make a fall trip there to waterfowl hunt. Our choices of areas are: Oakes, ND; Harvey, ND and the Devils Lake. Appreciate any help or suggestions. Please e-mail me to the above address. Thanks in advance.
Name: Jim
City: Morris, IL
: jkj3m4now@aol.com
Remote Name: 152.163.253.65
Date: Thursday July 03, 2003
Time: 01:07:54 PM
Hunting_Talk
The Harvey area, the Oakes area and the Devils lakes area are choices we have to make for a duck/goose hunt this October. Can anyone suggest, with their experiences on these locations, for good place to pick. Please leave your e-mail and/or phone number. Thanks. Jim
Name: ty b
City: rushford
: tyb34@hotmail.com
Remote Name: 206.230.105.249
Date: Sunday June 29, 2003
Time: 11:23:58 PM
Hunting_Talk
hey, me and a friend of mine would like to go prarie dog hunting but were not sure when and were the best time and place to go is. we were thinking of a Aug trip west of the missouri so if anyone knows some spot to help us out we would really like it.also if theres any thing eles we should know please tell us. thanks
Name: Marty
City: Grand Forks
Remote Name: 24.220.2.238
Date: Monday June 16, 2003
Time: 10:59:39 PM
Hunting_Talk
Tom, the reason that you don't see a problem with the number of hunters is that you are used to what the hunting situation is like in California. I have a cousin who grew up in ND, and lives in California also. He comes back here every year to hunt, and the horror stories he tells of the hunting situation in California is what we want to avoid. To you, there probably isn't crowding as it is immensely better than anything you can expect in California. To those of us who live here, or grew up here and moved away it is getting crowded and drastically changing from the way it was. Just a difference in perspectives.
Name: Tom
City: Riverside,Ca
: TBdrywall@yahoo.Com
Remote Name: 209.210.176.21
Date: Friday June 13, 2003
Time: 12:33:17 PM
Hunting_Talk
My son and I have been hunting in N. Dakota for the past 5 years. We hunt ducks and geese with Dan Rodriguez from Grand Forks. Each year we are amazed at the abundance of waterfowl and the lack of hunters. Rarely do we even see other hunters in the field. I'm not a rich guy who can afford to travel the U.S. and pay outlandish money to outffiters so I can be pampperd. For me I have not seen the problem of out of state hunters. So far it seems that there is plenty of game and areas to hunt. I'd also like to say that the people of North Dakota I've met have been generous and fun to hang out with. It is my hope and prayers that everything will work out for all parties involved with the issue of out of sate hunters. For my son and I hunting in North Dakota is something we talk about every week of the year. The one week we spend hunting in North Dakota is the only time we are in heaven but still on earth.
Name: Cory
City: Minot
Remote Name: 24.220.107.220
Date: Friday June 13, 2003
Time: 04:58:03 AM
Hunting_Talk
Anyone seen any coyotes/fox anywhere near the minot area??? So far 5 of us have yet to see any in the past couple months which is a bit odd.
Name: marty
City: grand forks
Remote Name: 24.220.2.238
Date: Friday June 06, 2003
Time: 04:43:07 PM
Hunting_Talk
There are no prairie dogs within two hours of fargo. The nearest ones are going to be four hours away on the other side of the state. You want to go south and west of the Missouri River. A nonresident needs to purchase a nonresident nongame license to shoot ground squirrels or prairie dogs.
Name: Robb Spence
City: Columbus, NE
: goaway2b@msn.com
Remote Name: 63.230.46.193
Date: Friday June 06, 2003
Time: 12:19:26 AM
Hunting_Talk
I will be in Fargo for a 2 weeks in June. Looking for some weekend prarie dog (or any varmint) shooting. 1) I don't expect anyone to give me a location but are there any critters in that area - for example within a 2 hr drive from Fargo? 2) I'm a ranch & farm owner so am VERY respectful to other ranchers - generally have fencing tools with me to fix any problems I see when hunting. 3) Obviously I'll check local laws for non-residents, licensing, etc. 4) Anybody I should check with to find locations? 5) I won't go around telling every shooter or posting names or locations on the internet either. 6) I am very SAFE and enjoy helping other ranchers while having some fun - I'm not one of those 500 shot/day guys - just a relaxing day shooting at a leisurely pace.
You can respond via this page or email me directly. If nobody responds I understand. Thanks for any help in sending me in the right direction. -Robb Spence
Name: gregg
City: sea
: g.merlino@attbi.com
Remote Name: 12.231.40.47
Date: Saturday May 24, 2003
Time: 09:16:21 AM
Hunting_Talk
is there any intrest in trading a salmon fishing trip in wash.state for access to hunt waterfowl in nodak
Name: Aaron
City: PLEASANT GROVE
: aarone@fugal.com
Remote Name: 208.187.79.194
Date: Thursday May 22, 2003
Time: 07:04:45 PM
Hunting_Talk
looking for a good mule area to hunt on public land. which area is best?
Name: Daniel
City: Glen Ullin
: danpeltz@westriv.com
Remote Name: 69.26.18.103
Date: Monday May 19, 2003
Time: 04:13:41 AM
Hunting_Talk
We have 6500 acres of excellent hunting land. We have CRP, corn plots, wheat, sunflowers, lots of cricks, and tree rows. We have alot of pheasants. Call now to book your hunt for the upcoming season. Are rates are $50 a day. We are located west of Bismarck 50 miles.
Daniel
701 226 1749
Name: Kory
City: Fargo
: kjskoog@juno.com
Remote Name: 63.230.104.211
Date: Tuesday May 13, 2003
Time: 12:32:46 PM
Hunting_Talk
I was recently drawn for an elk permit in area E3, which is Billings and Golden Valley counties. I was just wondering if anybody knows of any place I can hunt for elk in this area. I will be out in that area twice this summer before the hunt. Drop me an email and I'll contact as soon as possible.
Thank you Kory