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scott mcnamee
Grand Forks
scott@invoman.com
Wednesday March 20, 2002
05:24:07 PM
Interesting take on the situation, Dogman!
Well said. I wonder if $17.00 per bird would be enough? Perhaps a flat $20?
Kinda puts the 'money thing' back on the shoulders of the outfitters?
Very interesting...
dogman
jamestown
maurlaub@yahoo.com
Wednesday March 20, 2002
03:57:58 PM
in the Jamestown Sun today there was an article about the cannonball corp. Mr. Pat Candrian says that us residents "have to get away from the mindset that they have the right to hunt your ground." Well now isn't that special. The mighty manager of cannonball has spoken. I have no right to hunt private land. That isn't even an issue. the issue Mr. Candrian is that you charge too dam much. $300/day/person. it just blows my mind that people actually think that us residents are that nieve. I see it as propaganda to gain favor for the guides and land owners to put resident hunters into a bad light. Outfitters and guides would love to have the land owners pissed at us residents, more area for their clients. Land owners and guides do not see what the average resident hunter is seeing. And then this guy John Emmer from Plymouth, MN writes a letter to the editor that the early opener would be a good idea. I guess I would tell him the same thing Gov. Ventura told a ND resident in reguards to building a new stadium, it doesn't concern you and your opinion means nothing here. However, Mr. Candrian says that the Cannonball corp. does not control the hunting rights. So you can go down and hunt on that land if you have the land owners permission. Cannonball pays the farmers $17.00 per bird taken from their land. I say lets go down to the SW part of the state and ask some farmers to hunt their land. If you have a youngster to take with do it. Land owners tend to be more generous if a little one is involved. You know 17 bucks a bird is a heck of alot better than 300 bucks. I would pay 17.00 a bird to hunt prime pheasant land. If you can afford it, go down and ask some farmers to hunt and if they say no, tell them you will give them 17 bucks per bird just like the cannonball corp. does. It would be interesting to here what the land owners would say.
Jack squat
everywhere ND
Friday March 15, 2002
05:36:22 PM
Scott, Haven't you been listening? It's faR from over. The governer hasn't made a statemnt or proclimation yet. This is going to be remembered for a long time. He hosed us. to bad his but was in a jam. It's politics-dude-it's politics.
scott mcnamee
Grand Forks
scott@invoman.com
Friday March 15, 2002
04:55:06 PM
It looks as though the Governor is going to do the politicslly correct thing and NOT open the pheasant season a week early.
Is this a good thing?
Does this solve the problem?
dogman
jamestown
Friday March 08, 2002
08:06:28 PM
The CRP debate has been hashed and re-hashed. There is nothing in the CRP contracts that states that land owners can't lease or charge to hunt. they are being paid not to use the land for agricultural purposes. If we want that to change we have to get involved with the legislature to have the rules changed. I have always felt that land owners who collected CRP and then charged people to hunt on it are cheating you and me. We pay money in taxes that goes to these people. If they are going to make additional money then the CRP payments should stop. there is nothing that can change my mind on this one. And don't use the land tax excuse. My folks pay more in property tax each year for their house in town than I do on 160 acres in the Red River Valley. Except that I make money on my 160 acres. my folks make "ZERO" off their property.
concerned
in nd
Friday March 08, 2002
07:09:12 PM
I am not a pheasent hunter but watch and listen to the concerns on ND sportsman. If the leasing of land is getting to be such a big problem, do as outfitters talk to people who can help you. I think that the majority of people don't want the land leased in such volume as some outfitters have. Get a hold of your local sportsman groups and get them to sponsor legislative measure to limit amount of land a person or group can lease per year. I think that you would have more in support than not because the area that has this problem doesn't have a lot of representatives and votes count. Get ahold of your local reps and start to raise a stink. They want your vote so push a little. Trying to limit, or doing it would make people relize residents want their state also. As for the landowner I could only say that they are subsidized once and shouldn't be entilded to doulbe dipping. They also have to relize that the businessman on the corner doesn't get any subsidy even if he has a bad year.
If you know some of the farmers who are doing this double dipping you can see their subsidy payments if you do a seach at EWG and be ready to answer their remarks with asking if their paymnet of is enough. Granted some of the farmers are in need of the payments and don't get me wrong I don't want to see anyone lose their lively hood but they don't need me to feed them all year.